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Sunday, 12 April 2009

HOMOSEXUALS, GOD'S UNFORGIVEABLE SINNERS!


According to Christian principle, HOMOSEXUALITY is NOT only a sin; it is an ABOMINATION. Embedded in the teachings of most narrow Christian theologian is the notion that God grades sin. Sin, though it maybe, it seems okay from most of their point of view to fornicate and have adulterous relationships as long as they are heterosexual in nature. After all, that would mean that we GAY and LESBIAN folks are only sinners because we have sex with each other? If ONLY I could ACCEPT the precept that HOMOSEXUALITY is a sin…How could I? I only realize that I was different @ the age of 12; and during my teenage life, I had girlfriends because it was the thing to do. I was merely being ACCEPTED. So I tried to have sex as much as I can for bragging rights, which turns out to be a smokescreen for MY sexuality. My closely guarded secret however, was that I was much more sexually attracted to boys who were just as virile as me. So coming from a Christian home guided by Christian principles, that govern the GOOD catholic boy I was, I often wondered why GOD would allow this to happen to me? I had tried prayer and all sorts of self-imagery techniques in failed attempts to be like other so called straight boys. So HOMOSEXUALITY in my opinion is NOT a matter of lifestyle choice anymore than those who fornicate OR commit adultery. IT IS WHO WE ARE…Hence the suggestion that I am wrong says that there is a misunderstanding of the nature of the true HOMOSEXUAL. Moreover, who would choose such a lifestyle in order to be ridiculed AND ostracized by society? I know there are persons on this planet that do some STRANGE things, but…I don’t know about you, but I feel that years from now science will trump the Christian philosophy AND prove that HOMOSEXUALITY is indeed REAL and NOT some phantom in our minds. We need to put that bible aside AND realize that there are degrees of sexuality. For all intents and purposes the majority of people are heterosexual, but a significant a lot of us vary within that realm. And MANY of them are unhappy, so it make PERFECT sense why they would want us to feel that way as well…So while the church has historically served to foster moral balance in society, it has always lagged behind progressive social and scientific thinking. AS A RESULT I SAY WE PAY NO ATTENTION TO PERSONS THAT WHO POINTS OUT THAT THERE IS A GROUP OF PERSONS THAT CAN BE SAVED WITH GOD’S HELP IF THEY ABANDON THE SINFUL LIFE OF HOMOSEXUALITY. ISN’T MORALITY DYNAMIC? AND FROM AN ANATOMICAL STANDPOINT, IF THEY ARE THROWING STONES BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT ANAL INTERCOURSE IS AN ABOMINATION BECAUSE IT INVOLVES PENILE PENETRATION OF THE ANUS WHICH CONTAINS FECES…TELL ME DOESN’T A VAGINA CONTAIN URINE & BLOOD? SO I SAY PICK YOUR POISON, BUT IF YOU HAPPEN TO PREFER HETEROSEXUALITY, MAKE SURE THAT YOUR SCHIZOID ATTITUDE DOESN’T SCREW UP THE LIVES OF OTHERS THAT CHOOSE TO EMBRACE THEIR HOMOSEXUALITY…

24 comments:

  1. I agree. The church can be dangerous with the mess it speaks

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  2. WONDER MAN - YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN...

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  3. There is a lot of deliberate misunderstanding by religious leaders of what the bible really says on many topics. For instance, when the word 'abomination' is used in the bible, it refers to a ritual wrong — it isn't used to imply something is immoral. To quote Newsweek "Most of us no longer heed Leviticus on haircuts or blood sacrifices; our modern understanding of the world has surpassed its prescriptions. Why would we regard its condemnation of homosexuality with more seriousness than we regard its advice, which is far lengthier, on the best price to pay for a slave?"

    For more info watch the DVD "For The Bible Tells Me So". Read more on this at:

    http://www.theologynow.com/forthebibletellsmeso.htm

    As for 'ex-gay therapy', Professor Michael King, from University College London, says: "There is very little evidence to show that attempting to treat a person's homosexual feelings is effective and, in fact, it can actually be harmful." Read more on this at:

    http://thebestofmenblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/gays-offered-help-to-be-straight.html

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  4. well according to my calculations... just about everyone in church is a damn hypocrite.


    how are you Gayte...missed you soooooooo much...lol

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  5. URBAN SHOTZ - THANKS FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS...

    OYIN - PLEASE TELL ME THAT...YOU HAVE A LOT CATCHING UP TO DO...

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  6. Thankfully, I am no longer bound by the dictates of religious or secular institutions. Regardless of how much scientific evidence is presented, the prevaling opinion that homosexuality is a sin is not likely to change. One correction: urine is NOT expelled through a woman's vagina; that would be the urethral meatus (i.e. pee hole).

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  7. PLEASE LISTEN.....................SCRIPTURE HAS NEVER SAID HOMOSEXUALITY OR ACTS OF HOMOSEXUAL SEX WERE SINS. IT THE RELIGIOUS CULTURE THAT HAS ASSIGNED MEANING TO CERTAIN VERSES, BUT THE WORDS OF THOSE VERSES NEVER SAID THEY WERE SINS.
    not from lev, because some of its prohibitons of themselves were not sins


    num15:32 While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33 Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, 34 and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. 35 Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." 36 So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses.


    in christ, doing household chores are not sins and doing household chores on the sabbath are not sins.

    romans 1, 1cor and 1tim(original translation..."defiling oneself with mankind") are about defilement and shame. defilement because of investment in those things that are against the fruit of the spirit..........love joy,peace, kindness,patience,goodness,self-control,gentleness, and faithfulness and against the 2nd commandment,( the summation of all the law under the new covenant)(romans). and INNER shame because of indulging acts that came against the essence of spirit of christ, the spirit that all were created THRU.

    romans does not refer to homosexuality ,additionally, because it is about abandoning the things, that one had, that brought peace to ones inner soul because of ones natural inclinations. THEY WERE ABANDONED FOR acts motivated by emotions that brought inner shame, and were without peace.

    romans 1 one is about the basis of all sin. that sin is indemic to all mankind, both those under the law and those not under the law....................TO MAKE THE ARGUEMENT that everyone needed a savior

    IF FOR NO OTHER REASON, READ SCRIPTURE TO BREAK THE CYCLE OF IGNORANCE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

    www.biblegateway.com


    surely those of you who are believers in christ know about the curtain of the holy of holies being ripped into at the crucifixtion so that believers no longer have a relationship with god thru regulation as in deut 28, but directly to and thru the spirit(triune god) the one who lives within them, because now we live under grace and are led by and serve of the spirit(romans)

    understandings about physicality and regulation have no place in a covenant that is about spirit.



    and "what is named "old" will become obsolete and will soon pass away."(hebrews 8)

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  8. Thanks for the Post Gayte. And btw on Facebook I probably was sleep lol. I stay up hella late tho. About this post, yeah I agree with you all the way.

    When you are so brainwashed with ignorance because you refuse to understand the brothers and sisters go to your church, it is dismissing the whole cosmology of who black people are. Difference is not an abomination much like being black is not an abomination just because the white slave owners thought so.

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  9. AND THAT IS WHY I CANNOT MEMORISE THE BIBLE, NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRY. AMEN.

    Anyway, just this Friday as I was busy doing this & that at home, my mind simply wondered onto the topic of anal sex and why some people condemn it. It occured to me that it is pure insanity for those who criticise it and point out that it's dirty & that the penis was made for the vagina & how any man who finds his heaven in this way is a sinner, blah..blah..blah..

    I thought, but this is flawed logic, no? Is it not through a woman's genitals that blood comes out? Doesn't urine come out of there as well? There are even men who will sleep with a woman while she is in her menses. So, what is the difference here?

    And if someone says God will throw you into eternal flames simply because of where you place your genitals, well, then heaven help us. Is God that trivial?

    Then I've also heared some people ask, 'what does a man feel having sex with another man'? And it occurs to me that a lot of us are ignorant of the strucure of our own bodies. If you're a man & you ask this question, then I don't understand.

    So gayte, your thoughts are in sync with mine on this topic.

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  10. SO GAYTE & OYIN, YOU ALL AGREE THAT EVERYONE IN CHURCH IS A HYPOCRITE?

    WOW I NEVER BEFORE THOUGHT OF MYSELF AS ONE. BUT HEY, I GUESS WE CAN NEVER SEE OUR OWN SHORTCOMINGS...

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  11. LOSOJOSNUEVOS – I AM GLAD THAT YOU ARE FEEL FREE…OKAY YOU COULDN’T LET ME HAVE THE URINE THING?

    FEETXXXL – YOU ARE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR HERE…

    JAMAR HERROD – YOU ARE WELCOME…I WILL CATCH SOON ENOUGH…

    MISS SHALLOTTE – I LOVE WHEN WE ARE IN SYNC…& ABOUT OYIN & I SAYING THAT THE CHURCH IS FULL OF HYPOCRITES IS JUST ME GENERALIZING WHICH IS TOTALLY UNFAIR…JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW THE INNOCENT GETS THROWN IN THE WITH GUILTY…I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST YOU OR YOUR CHURCH…

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  12. given the number of heterosexual couples compared to gay couples, and given the number of heterosexual couple that practice some form of anal stimulation including penetration, the likeihood is that there are more heterosexuals that practice anal sex than homosexuals.

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  13. Well what i can't understand is why was when i was young and "innocent" did God have to make me Gay? I do remember being in 2nd grade and already playing with only girls......Was i brought to this earth via Jesus' Love and Grace only to be rejected and condemned?.....I just don't Know!

    anywho....i still ask for forgiveness....from HIM and everyone here.....for some reason i can't shake being raised in the church....but heaven help me if anyone disrespects me....and if i'm going to hell....i will be holding their hand all the way down.....
    but anywayz....nice subject....extremely debatable....

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  14. neulicious

    please explain how wanting to do the same things as heterosexuals(which you apparently credit as not being sinful) except that it is with the same gender is a sin?

    do homosexuals love any less, are they less committed, less devoted and less affectionate and less affirming?

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  15. this is somethin that took me awhile to wrap my head around growing up and even into my late teenage years...being brought up in the church i've heard/learned that homosexual acts are considered a sin..that a man should not lay with a man the way a man lauys with a woman...hmmmm

    It's also been said that a sin is a sin regardless of the sin..except for blasphemy against the Holy Spirit..but if sin is sin regardless..isn't it a sin to judge someone and not love them as Christ would...doesn't the word Christian mean to be Christ-like??? hmmmmm

    Also according to John 3:16 (since folk like to quote the Bible and use it as a defense in their homo bashing) "whosoever believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life." Doesn't the term whosoever cover everyone..gay..straight..black..white..young..old etc...hmmmmmm

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  16. JERZEY_REALITY - THEY WON'T HEAR A WORD YOU SAY...YOU ARE ONE OF THE GAYS...

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  17. Totally feel and understand u on every level with this one. It is how i have always felt from discovering my attraction to the boys one the play ground to the here and now where i have fully embraced who I am.

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  18. TRU3LOGIC - GOOD CAUSE IF YOU DON'T EMBRACE YOURSELF THEN...

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  19. I didn't realise you were a good Catholic boy TG-K. Yay!

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  20. KA-OS - AIN'T THAT SOMETHING?

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  21. Anytime something is originally written by MAN in another language, then gets translated numerous times over centuries, by MAN with his own beliefs, agendas, hates & taboos, that thing is bound to stray from the ORIGINAL truth and is tainted by MAN.

    In The Bible of Myself: Love is Love... and God is Love.


    One.

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  22. We don't hear about the early you so often - nice to

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  23. I don't believe homosexuality is a sin
    I also believe in the bible
    If science finds a genetic marker for homosexuality it will only be met with skepticism from the religious community so...
    With all that being said you are right being gay is definitely viewed as the worst thing you can be aside from maybe bestiality and then again maybe not.
    As for hypocrisy in the church it is really there and that's not what the bible teaches
    The major problem is that we don't teach what Jesus thought when it comes to homosexuality and many Christians don't show the tru qualities of Jesus

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